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Taking drugs 3 months 1 week ago #3249873

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Having read that two mp's hoping to be the new leader of the Torys have come out and admit taking drugs in the pass should it stop them from getting the job. After all we have people who have been knighted who have taken drugs in the pass.
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Yes.... WHAT HAPPENS TO STANDARDS IF WE CONTINUE TO LOWER THE BAR. Just because some have crawled under the bar, regardless of their, or despite their assumed, presumed station in life. We all know how damaging drugs are and we should not be lead by druggies.
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So no one is allowed to make a mistake in their youth?

Wouldn't put me off either candidate given that it happened in the past. Makes them seen a little more normal.
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Too little information:

Aspirin is a drug.
Tried weed a few times way back when - who cares.
Did meth for 20 years and was a total a*hole about it - big difference.
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No, prior drug use shouldn’t stop someone from getting a job, if they have kicked the habit.

If someone admits to using drugs in the past but they have stopped using them, it seems daft to punish them for having the strength of character to give up the habit.

I remember when my son was really keen to join the Royal Airforce - he passed all the physical and intelligence tests, had all the background checks, Security clearance and references done and got through to the final interview. He was asked if he had ever taken drugs. He thought it would be best to be honest and admitted that he had tried some “recreational” type drugs when he was a young teenager but had quickly decided it was a mug’s game and didn’t continue.
That honesty made the selection board reject his application to join the RAF. He was gutted and realised if he had just lied and said he’d never taken drugs, he would have been accepted.

When he got over his disappointment, he applied to join the Army and was asked the same question about drugs - he said No, he’d never taken drugs and was accepted into the Army.
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Eira wrote: No, prior drug use shouldn’t stop someone from getting a job, if they have kicked the habit.

If someone admits to using drugs in the past but they have stopped using them, it seems daft to punish them for having the strength of character to give up the habit.

I remember when my son was really keen to join the Royal Airforce - he passed all the physical and intelligence tests, had all the background checks, Security clearance and references done and got through to the final interview. He was asked if he had ever taken drugs. He thought it would be best to be honest and admitted that he had tried some “recreational” type drugs when he was a young teenager but had quickly decided it was a mug’s game and didn’t continue.
That honesty made the selection board reject his application to join the RAF. He was gutted and realised if he had just lied and said he’d never taken drugs, he would have been accepted.

When he got over his disappointment, he applied to join the Army and was asked the same question about drugs - he said No, he’d never taken drugs and was accepted into the Army.


so he lied to the army board, a very serious offence
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Of course, we are talking of "illegal " drugs....because everyone takes drugs.
Perhaps easier if all drugs were " legal"?
Now Gove has admitted to taking cocaine ( no doubt to see off any blackmail attempts later). As I understand it, cocaine is the recreational drug of choice amongst the wealthy " go- getters" in UK if not also further afield? However, in making this admission he may have restricted his chances of being PM because of the "strict" laws of USA against visits of users and former users? He is sorry for this " mistake" in his youth.....but, in fact, he deliberately flouted the law ( on many occasions)... can he be trusted in future....what is his attitude to drug use now? Does he wish legalisation of cocaine and other drugs? Surely he is hopelessly compromised in this area of drug enforcement and therefor not suitable as PM ?
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Eira wrote: ... When he got over his disappointment, he applied to join the Army and was asked the same question about drugs - he said No, he’d never taken drugs and was accepted into the Army.

If your son is still in the military, he problem now, if the British military is anything like its American cousin, is that if, at any point down the line, for any reason whatsoever, the British army discovers the truth, your son will be subject to full military discipline on several levels, and then be tossed out with no pension and no access to any other veterans' benefits.

Something as minor as increasing his security clearance might automatically kick off a deeper security check, which might include checking with the other military services. I once witnessed a young lieutenant who had received the lowest level of civil discipline prior to going to university and then joining the military get turned down when a check of his high school records turned up that minor offense from ten years previously. The military has no sense of humor in many areas.
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Having tried any number of drugs at various points in one's life and being a drug addict (compelled to take drugs on a regular basis) are two completely different things. I don't give a rat's behind if someone has experimented or had some illegal drugs at a party 20 years ago or whatever. That's a far cry from being someone driven by drug addiction.
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Lexie78 wrote: Of course, we are talking of "illegal " drugs....because everyone takes drugs.
Perhaps easier if all drugs were " legal"?
Now Gove has admitted to taking cocaine ( no doubt to see off any blackmail attempts later). As I understand it, cocaine is the recreational drug of choice amongst the wealthy " go- getters" in UK if not also further afield? However, in making this admission he may have restricted his chances of being PM because of the "strict" laws of USA against visits of users and former users? He is sorry for this " mistake" in his youth.....but, in fact, he deliberately flouted the law ( on many occasions)... can he be trusted in future....what is his attitude to drug use now? Does he wish legalisation of cocaine and other drugs? Surely he is hopelessly compromised in this area of drug enforcement and therefor not suitable as PM ?


Total BS.
All people (politicians included) have experiences in a number of areas. For a PM candidate to have no exposure to any area s/he may have to deal with is just silly, crazy, and impossible.

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