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NATO Summit 2018 4 months 1 week ago #3021479

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We will need a thread to cover the NATO summit. Here is a handy document to define what NATO is.

www.nato.int/cps/su/natohq/126169.htm
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Thanks for the handy review of what NATO is. I cannot help but notice that trade is not part of the NATO mission at all. Wonder why no one has made ole Trumpy aware of that?
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It appears that Trump cannot make it through a breakfast get together without launching into his attacks. This time to say that Germany is "captive to Russia". Spoken by the man who ignores that Russia interfered in his own country's election. He seems to think his bull in a china shop approach will work but note that Mike Pompeo was looking around the room like he wanted to find the exit doors

Here is what Angela Merkel had to say.....

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/11/...-captive-of-russians
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Germany has the EU's biggest economy and has long been accused by US administrations of failing to contribute its fair share to Nato operations but Mr Trump's comments were particularly stinging.

At a breakfast meeting in Brussels with Nato chief Jens Stoltenberg, the US leader said: "Germany is totally controlled by Russia because they will be getting from 60% to 70% of their energy from Russia, and a new pipeline, and you tell me if that's appropriate because I think it's not and I think it's a very bad thing for Nato."

Another ridiculous statement by trump.

Gas, imported from Russia and Norway, makes out only 20% of the energy used in Germany.
The rest is produced by other sources, in Germany.

"Germany breaks green energy record by generating 35% of power from renewables in first half of 2017

Country aiming to phase out nuclear plants by 2022

Germany raised the proportion of its power produced by renewable energy to 35 percent in the first half of 2017 from 33 percent the previous year, according to the BEE renewable energy association.

Germany is aiming to phase out its nuclear power plants by 2022. Its renewable energy has been rising steadily over the last two decades thanks in part to the Renewable Energy Act (EEG) which was reformed this year to cut renewable energy costs for consumers.

It aims to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 40 percent in 2020 from 1990 levels and 95 percent by 2050."
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/...rbines-a7820156.html

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Germany’s energy consumption in 2017
by Craig Morris
11 Jan 2018

Based on preliminary figures for 2017, electricity from renewables grew by a record amount. Coal power production also fell noticeably even as nuclear power fell – despite record exports. But one big news item may have been overlooked amidst all the new records. Craig Morris takes a look.

Since the first nuclear reactor was shut down in 2003 as a part of Germany’s nuclear phaseout, electricity from renewables has increased almost twice as much as nuclear power has shrunk. Coal power – both from lignite and hard coal – has also dropped. The lights have stayed on.

The 29 TWh increase from renewables in 2017 sets an annual record. That growth is equivalent to around 5% of German power demand. If Germany were to continue to expand renewables at that rate, it would theoretically be 100% renewable in 20 years starting from zero.

But of course, Germany did not start 2017 at zero, but from around 30% renewables in 2016 as a share of generation (including exports). That number increased to 33% last year. More significantly, the target for 2020 is 35% renewables as a share of demand (excluding exports). Last year, Germany reached 36.5% renewables as a share of domestic demand. The country has thus surpassed its 2020 target three years early."
energytransition.org/2018/01/german-energy-consumption-2017/



Germany has been getting up to 85 percent of its electricity from renewable sources on certain sunny, windy days this year.

The BEE reported on Sunday the overall share of wind, hydro and solar power in the country's electricity mix climbed to a record 35 percent in the first half.

The government has pledged to move to a decarbonised economy by the middle of the century and has set a target of 80 percent renewables for gross power consumption by 2050.
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NATO Summit 2018 4 months 1 week ago #3021549

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Pay no attention to that orange man behind the curtain.

Senate Votes 97-2 to Support NATO Ahead of Trump Summit

Lawmakers on Tuesday overwhelmingly voted in favor of a motion supporting NATO, as President Trump continues to criticize the alliance ahead of his summit in Europe.

The nonbinding motion, which came as the Senate voted to reconcile its version of the annual defense policy bill with that of the House, expresses the Senate’s support for NATO and calls on negotiators to reaffirm the U.S. commitment to it.

The 97-2 vote in the Senate comes as Trump heads to Brussels. He will also travel to the United Kingdom and meet one-on-one with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki during his trip.

GOP Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.) and Mike Lee (Utah) voted against the measure.

Democratic Sen. Jack Reed (R.I.) proposed the measure, calling the U.S. support for NATO "ironclad."

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Maybe trump should get his ´facts´ straight... 4 months 1 week ago #3021550

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And here is the reason behind trumps ridiculous accusations:

"The abundance of American coal on international markets has been an unintentional side effect of the rapid rise of new drilling techniques for natural gas in the United States. Hydraulic fracturing, or “fracking,” has opened up new reserves so vast that the United States will soon become a net natural gas exporter, slashing the country’s reliance on costly oil imports."

Trump To Urge European Allies To Dump Russia, Buy U.S. Gas
The United States recently began shipping liquefied gas to Poland for the first time, and Trump will tell allies in Poland that he wants to make it as easy as possible for U.S. companies to ship more gas to Central and Eastern Europe, the White House officials said.

Some analysts are doubtful about U.S. ambitions to supply the European market, however, as a glut of gas in world markets has been depressing prices and making it difficult to turn a profit exporting liquefied natural gas.

Russia has the advantage of lower costs in Europe because of its close proximity and pipeline connections. But analysts say concerns about security may ultimately overcome that advantage.

"Europe is going to be the great competitive arena between Russian and US gas," Daniel Yergin, a Pulitzer Prize-winning oil historian, told Reuters.

Any move by the United States to expand in the European gas market also could run up against opposition in Germany and other European countries involved in building a new pipeline to pump Russian gas to Germany through the Baltic Sea.

Germany's foreign minister last month questioned whether U.S. ambitions to export gas weren't behind the U.S. Senate's move to include a provision in its Russian sanctions bill that would penalize European firms involved with that pipeline, known as Nord Stream 2.

The U.S. State Department has maintained that Nord Stream 2 is undesirable because it would make Europe more vulnerable and dependent on Russia.
www.rferl.org/a/trump-urge-eastern-europ...l-gas-/28594789.html
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NATO Summit 2018 4 months 1 week ago #3021551

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This excuse for a man doesnt warrant any meeting with any European leader, he is scum, a liar and its time the people of the U S got him removed . If May has got any guts she will make it known to his face how the rest of the world sees him. Nobody so far has had the guts to do that . So come on Mrs May a wonderful chance to consolidate your position

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"According to Derek Chollet, a former Department of Defense official and senior adviser for security and defense policy at the German Marshall Fund, "Trump misunderstands what NATO is all about -- he still talks about it as though it's some club in which alliance members owe dues ... they're falling behind on."

"This is money that they spend on their own defense," Chollet said, adding that "part of the problem is that Trump has been uninvolved and uninterested in the details."

Trump has sent a series of letters to NATO allies, including Germany, Belgium, Canada and others, demanding they boost spending and threatening to shift the US military presence in Europe if they do not. The letters were first reported in The New York Times.

The European official noted that top US administration officials are trying to do "damage control" and reassure nervous allies, but in the end "nobody knows what Trump will do."

Indeed, the steady drumbeat of negative comments from Trump is beginning to overwhelm reassurances from the rest of the US national security establishment, said James M. Goldgeier, a visiting senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

"Officials like Mattis and US Ambassador to NATO Kay Bailey Hutchison have tried to reassure NATO allies, but I think that reassurance is wearing thin," Goldgeier told reporters on Tuesday.
"The Europeans are really bracing for the worst," he said.

Sestanovich noted that such a move would be consistent with Trump's pre-summit tweets and with recent indications of a possible rift between the President and his defense secretary, a former NATO supreme allied commander. Sestanovich shared a joke going around the Pentagon that Trump is tweaking Mattis' "Mad Dog" nickname and now calls the secretary "Moderate Dog Mattis."
Even if Trump does not make specific threats while in Brussels, some experts argue that the appearance of discord among the allies could undermine the alliance in ways that benefit Moscow. Trump will meet with Putin in Helsinki after the NATO summit and a visit to the UK.

"It's more a concern that the signal coming out of the summit will be disunity. One of Vladimir Putin's core strategic goals is to have the US and Europe divided from each other and that the NATO alliance is weak," Chollet said.
"If we have a summit that is anything like the G7, where a US President is insulting fellow leaders, is refusing to sign an agreement at the end, that would play directly into Putin's hands," he said, referencing the displays of tension between Trump and allied leaders over trade when they gathered in Canada last month."
edition.cnn.com/2018/07/10/politics/trum...ean-fears/index.html
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U.S. House Passes Resolution in Support of NATO by Unanimous Voice Vote

The House of Representatives on Wednesday unanimously passed a resolution expressing support for NATO as President Trump roiled allies with escalating calls for increased spending from alliance members.

The House, which added the NATO resolution to its schedule this week, approved the item via voice vote, according to multiple reports. It calls NATO "the most important and critical security link between the United States and Europe."

Trump on Wednesday repeatedly called for allies to increase their spending contributions toward the alliance. He has long complained that the U.S. shoulders an unfair burden in covering a majority of the funding for NATO.

The House resolution came a day after the Senate approved a nonbinding motion 97-2 expressing support for the alliance.

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Wednesday, shortly after the president singled out Germany, that NATO is "indispensable" and "as important today as it ever has been."


Apparently we have a president willing to take NATO members to task for their lack of monetary commitment to their own defense. Poland seems willing to pay for their own defense. Some of Trump's people are recommending that we pull our forces out of Western Europe and move them east to Poland. I don't think the House and Senate will go along, but in this administration who knows.
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